Kawasaki Ninja Forum banner
1 - 12 of 12 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
32 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I love my little Ninja. I have no desire to trade it in or sell it. But I do get the itch for something more. I tried friends' bikes: '01 GSXR600, a '03 FZ1 and '07 R1200R. I loved the FZ1 - the upright position and power are just right.

Any of you with second bigger cc bikes, what do you recommend?

How about ABS, is it worth getting?

Straight up, if they would put ABS on the Ninja 650, I'd get it in a heartbeat.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,247 Posts
I've been old that the 2010 ninja 650 for Australia will have ABS, and be Learner approved, so can be used for beginners as well!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,884 Posts
zandit said:
I've been old that the 2010 ninja 650 for Australia will have ABS, and be Learner approved, so can be used for beginners as well!
I belive that go nixed here in the US. I will double check later.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,695 Posts
General, I've found that in most cases where ABS on a bike should be used, the rider has no business being... I think it's an over-rated feature manufacturers are using to sell bikes, just like cars manu's, and most other special features of that nature - like Volvo's collision's system, and merc and such forth. But then again, I'm the kind of guy that like's carbs, likes to do my own maintenance, and I don't have a computer science degree, and believes a machine should have as little wiring on it as possible. Give me explosions, and metal on metal action (with a little oil in between there... ) :p

And that's kind of hard to find in a bigger bike these days. But if I were to upsize, as you are, this is how I would go about it:

1.) What is the purpose of the bike? Long-legged tourer, hot looking speed machine, slow-speed aesthetic and auditory acausting mental impact machine (a small-dick device used to get attention :p).... etc.

2.) Forget about features, they just muddle the decision. Forget about engine size, it has nothing to do with the equation. Anything bigger than a 250 will be beyond gratuiously fast for the road. For the drag stip or race track it's a different story.

3.) Ride a lot of bikes, and whichever speaks to you with a certain characteristic, remember that one. For instance, you like the comfort of the FZ1, but is there a different bike out there with styling that you prefer? Bigger winshield? Etc, etc.

4.) Based off of having designed your own dream bike, in your mind, stealing features from bikes which exist, plan out what costs for the aftermarkets are going to be, and then pick a bike based on how close it is to your dream.

or you can take option 2. Buy a bike with intention of selling it in a year and "sampling" another one... :p I did this for 3 years, learned a lot about what I like in a bike...

Here are some trends I've discovered about bikes:

1.) Super sports are beautiful to look at, and a dream on the track, but oh heavens are they uncomfortable for most people. (I personally prefer the riding position for long trips, but hey.... :p)

2.) Cruisers are a waste of money because they are for show. You can get a more comfortable, more capable, and reliable bike in the form of a Versys, Vstrom, Weestrom (650), GS800, etc,etc...

3.) Most fellows with a brain tend to throw styling out the window and go for function, because it's impossible to make a bike beautiful and comfortale at the same time, at least that's what major manu's have seemed to communicate in the past.... Only exception is the Connie 1400..

My .02, hope it helps.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
32 Posts
Discussion Starter · #6 ·
spooph

Thanks for that post.

I like your advice to keep trying bikes and buying a bike for a year or so. Makes good sense.

I never really looked at ABS that way. It is true, I don't want to be in that situation where I will need ABS. Will having it give that false confidence (like the SUV drivers in snow)?

I already figured out that size of engine doesn't matter. I could get by just fine with a 600cc MAX.

So true Felix, buy what you like.

Another question:

Having never ridden a naked bike for a long period of time, I want to know if it is possible to tour on a naked bike. Do you have to have wind protection? What if I wanted to ride from Toronto to California (see my pics in New Members "Hello from TO"), can I do it on a naked?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,695 Posts
general, it's all about what size, shape, color and material you're balls are made out of. With big brass one's I think you can do that trip. With massive steel ones, I think you can do OT to Chile on a naked bike... :p

OK, so being serious now. With the right gear, you can do anything. However, I find that most people who ride naked bikes don't buy them with their #1 reason being to take long trips. Many do that anyway, but their #1 is usually appearance and "livability" - mid range torque, up right/comfortable riding position, etc. So, can you handle some wind on your longer trips for the excessive oggling you'll recieve around town, on the high way and so forth. Oh yea, you can confirm this with Crushed. NEVER, EVER EVER ride a naked bike by the beach. If a man rides something like a Z1000 past a beach, women have a bad habbit of loosing their clothes.... If a woman rides by a beach on something like a Z1000, men have a bad habbit of fainting, or calling their psychiatrist. They usually have questions like: "Am I still alive?" "Am I still sane?" "Did I just see what I saw or am I dreaming?" Ever notices how men turn into a pack of dogs when a beautiful woman and motorcycles are present at the same time? Yea, that's what happens.

...
...
...
...

Wow, what's wrong with me tonight. This is very unlike me. mmmm, I think I'll go call my therapist.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,026 Posts
lmao omg thats so funny! just made my morning spooph!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,026 Posts
ive foun that my DB screen works really well! and i find that, like spooph, i prefer a sportsbike type position for longer trips
 
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
Top