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Figured I start a review of my 2012 Ninja 650....Likes and dislikes.

First off let me tell u about myself. I a 57 year old male. 200 pounds at 5'7". I have always prefered Off/On road bikes in the 500 class.
But after moving to Southern Maine, and not having much for dirt areas to ride i went back to street.
Did a lot of research on bikes before i bought one. Seems the Ninja class has been around a long time, and most everyone that owns one has had good luck with them. Even if you run the shit out of them.
So off I go to check them out..... dealers here I come.
Didn't care much for the feel of the R models. That lay down position just wasn't going to work for this older body. The 650 upright version feels fine. Feels very well balanced siting there on it. Not to heavy, and i'm flat footed. Controls all feel real good, and the front brake, and clutch are adjustable. Guages are very nice, and easy to read. I also can ride double up, and the back seat feels more comfy that the front.
Test ride wasn't much, have to ride more....
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Now after having the bike a while. Simple as this..... LOVE IT!!!
It's like not being on anything, and control is wonderful. Everything just works perfect for me. I did drop the bike on each side now sence I owned it, but first time was a dog coming at me at start off from a stop sign, and sand in road. Next was the strap that goes under ur boot on raingear got caught in kickstand at gas station. Cut them off.
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Handling is great. You can zip in, and out of city traffic with ease.
All the guts you need to get around safely. Interstate travel is easy... I hate interstates. The curvy mountain roads..... Perfect.
Always starts with the fuel injection. I start mine once a week up here in Maine...... One push of the button.
The headlights could stand to be brighter tho. They're ok, but i like bright. I'll add a couple small extras this spring.
Oil changes are quite easy. Removing the fairing is quite easy as needed one u do it a few times.
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Tires....... well the rear one wont last long.....sticky tires don't.
I got over 5000 on mine, and that will get changed this spring to a
Michelin Pilot Road 3 . Front may make it another summer depending how much i get to ride. I don't ride track, but the Pilot road is a duel compound tire. Sticky sides for corners, and harder in center for touring.
I did find saddlebads for this bike....
Cortech Super 2.0 36-Liter Saddlebags.... Cortech Super 2.0 36-Liter Saddlebags - Street Motorcycle - Motorcycle Superstore
I got them at dealer cheaper.
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Well i guess that's it.......
Love the bike, and can't wait again for spring.

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Update on the Pilot Road 3.....
I've put about 3000 miles on it now.....
Handles very well......
I have road some very tite corners with it at 45-55 MPH and the side compound has really grabbed well....
Ya...nothing like running track, but......
I have scraped the left foot peg on the asphalt.....
I don't stick my knee out.....
Don't want to rip a leg off....LOL
The tire is Just starting to show a bit of wear.....
U know....beginning of the dreaded flat spot.....
Just bairly can start to see it.....
I gotta get on some twisties I guess.....
Tire rides very well.....
I now need a front so will go Pilot road 3 for that 2....
Love the tire.....








 

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am having a Michelin Pilot 3 rear tyre as well, size 180
very happy with it... front tyre is still stock, but will switch to Michelin when the time comes
am running with tyre pressure front 32/rear 36, how about u?

btw, i enjoyed reading your 650 review
happen to be in the same age & weight category, with the same bike model
i love it!
 

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am having a Michelin Pilot 3 rear tyre as well, size 180
very happy with it... front tyre is still stock, but will switch to Michelin when the time comes
am running with tyre pressure front 32/rear 36, how about u?

btw, i enjoyed reading your 650 review
happen to be in the same age & weight category, with the same bike model
i love it!
Yeppa like my bike also, but would like a bit more umph....LOL
tire pressure same about....32 front 35 rear.....
I notice my front started cupping after changing the rear....
Dealer said it would......
Harmonics of 2 diff brand tires I guess....
So a road pilot 3 this friday 4 the front.....

I have noticed just recently my chain either stretching on maybe some sprocket wear.....
I been using Bel-Ray super clean........
I also have been a giving the bike a bit more throttle lately enjoying the umph a bit more.....
Not sure the Bel-Ray is handling that?
So......knowing how well my chains have lasted in past years on my 500+CC off n on dirt/road bikes I am starting to use some bar n chain lube again....
It is a lot more messy...n....requires more cleaning of the rear wheel/swingarm area, but having suck good luck before i'm giving it a try again....
I'll still use the Bel-Ray after to help seal the chain after a ride to get the extra flung off....
Wheel cleaning will have to be done a bit more often....
I'm hoping that when bar oiling it and letting it sit over night to drip...
It won't be to bad a mess after.
Really got to stop cranking the bike as much to hopefully get a summer from the chain/sprocket....
Next set of sprockets will be:
Titanium II Sprocket Lifetime Guaranteed Titanium 2

Chain will be a:
Smart Chain II The Motorcycle Chain and ATV Chain that thinks
In a 16,000 pound class.....

A bit heavier, but double the strength......
I'm now researching better chain sprays.....








 

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you mention a test ride in your initial post.. every time i go to a dealership they say that they don't do test rides... how the hell did you get one
Guess i'm special?
Maybe where i'm older n graying they know i'm not gunna abuse the machine?
Really u got me, but i wouldn't even consider buying from a dealer that won't let me try it first....
Hell they can even sit on the back if they needed...








 

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Yeppa like my bike also, but would like a bit more umph....LOL
tire pressure same about....32 front 35 rear.....
I notice my front started cupping after changing the rear....
Dealer said it would......
Harmonics of 2 diff brand tires I guess....
So a road pilot 3 this friday 4 the front.....

I have noticed just recently my chain either stretching on maybe some sprocket wear.....
I been using Bel-Ray super clean........
I also have been a giving the bike a bit more throttle lately enjoying the umph a bit more.....
Not sure the Bel-Ray is handling that?
So......knowing how well my chains have lasted in past years on my 500+CC off n on dirt/road bikes I am starting to use some bar n chain lube again....
It is a lot more messy...n....requires more cleaning of the rear wheel/swingarm area, but having suck good luck before i'm giving it a try again....
I'll still use the Bel-Ray after to help seal the chain after a ride to get the extra flung off....
Wheel cleaning will have to be done a bit more often....
I'm hoping that when bar oiling it and letting it sit over night to drip...
It won't be to bad a mess after.
Really got to stop cranking the bike as much to hopefully get a summer from the chain/sprocket....
Next set of sprockets will be:
Titanium II Sprocket Lifetime Guaranteed Titanium 2

Chain will be a:
Smart Chain II The Motorcycle Chain and ATV Chain that thinks
In a 16,000 pound class.....

A bit heavier, but double the strength......
I'm now researching better chain sprays.....
sounds right for the tyres...
i totally agree about giving extra attention to chain & sprockets
roads around here can get quite muddy at times, after one of these tropical downpours...
am getting rid of dirt & sand on the chain, before giving it a good no-fly lube treatment
runs smoother, lasts longer... and makes no disturbing friction noises
 

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Chainsaw Bar n chain oil....
I find i like it better then Bel-Ray super clean...
Even if it does make a bit of a mess.
That's what rags n paper towels are for....
But chain stays lubed, and now doesn't have them kinks.
I lube it a bit more often.....
Not stretching/wearing anymore either....








 

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Talkin about chains mine won't stay in adjustment I have chain slap sounds like its about to come apart and I can tighten it and have play or slack like I'm supposed to ride it a little and check it and it will be tight why is this anyone
 

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Talkin about chains mine won't stay in adjustment I have chain slap sounds like its about to come apart and I can tighten it and have play or slack like I'm supposed to ride it a little and check it and it will be tight why is this anyone
Now that the chain has been stretched/worn u need first to find it's tightest place by turning ur wheel.
Then adjust from that point.
U may be adjusting at it's slackest point then checking it at it's tightest.








 

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Lubed chain again today......:thumb:
It's been raining all week n roads are dirty...n lube gets washed off....
Noticed a few kinked looking linked as I turned n lubed....:facepalm:
Found a few very hard to move.....:eek:
Using 2 pair of pliers I managed to get them moving....:thumb:
But how long will they continue to move?
I took a lot of time looking the chain over.....:thumb:
It was very clean, and really looked very good.
Looked O rings over nnn they also looked good.
Rear sprocket looked good....
Front sprocket is hard to see without taking the cover off...
So using a flashlight i looked best i could.....looked good.
Why 4-6 links acted so stiff when the rest were fine.?
I moved links around quite a bit n find most have a bit of play...
Not much tho.....:nonono:
10,500 miles now, so i'd figure a bit of play....:rolleyes:
Chain sounds good when driving....No weird noises...:thumb:
Lubed it up real good with sticky Bar n chain oil...
Let it drip...spun wheel.....let it drip....over n over a few more times....:thumb:
Sitting n dripping now.....
After a coffee... i'll give it a bit of a heavy duty marine salt waterproof grease with my finger.....:thumb:
Then spin it a bit......
Probly drive it up the street n back to fling loose stuff off....
N then wipe it off from under the rear seat area....:facepalm:
I don't put my fingers in there when i spin it manually.....:dance:
I know what happens to idiots when they try that trick.....LOL
I plan a all day ride 2morrow.....finally sun...YeeHaamama..:dance:
Dam I hate chains......But what choice have we got?
Maybe i can get anutta 5-6 thousand miles from it?
Then.......Titanium sprockets n a 16,000 LB O ring smart chain...

Titanium II Sprocket Lifetime Guaranteed Titanium 2

Smart Chain II The Motorcycle Chain and ATV Chain that thinks








 

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Checked chain over really well again today.....
Was mostly checking for missing O rings....
This chain really hasn't stretched much as of yet.
I haven't even adjusted it one whole notch as of yet.
More like less then a half notch.....
I started out with using Bel-Ray super clean because of all the good reviews.
Not happy at all with the product....
I went back to the old standby i been using for years, and years on my bikes.
Chainsaw Bar n Chain lube....stickyest stuff i can find.
It's messy...yes...
Ok after looking the chain over really good i noticed that a lot of inner rollers
have a fair space between the roller, and the outter plate, but......
The O rings are all in place n look A-Ok.
I used a bright light with a magnifying glass.
Checked the riveted pins to see how they looked....Not good..
I think these stock chain are poor quality....
The riveted ends didn't look the same on each link telling me that was done in poor quality.
Maybe i just got a bad chain?
Best as I could i wiggled links to check for play.
They seem ok for a while longer.....
Wished i would of done this when i was new to be sure.
Looks like a new chain with sprockets will be in the near future....
I didn't bother take pics....
Hands were to oily to bother with using a camera.
I'll keep it lubed well 4 now with the Bar n Chain lube.
Then after it drips off n flings off on a short ride...
I'll hit it with a bit of White lithium grease spray.
I'm quite sure that's all the Bel-Ray expensive stuff is...








 

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Checked chain over really well again today.....
Was mostly checking for missing O rings....
This chain really hasn't stretched much as of yet.
I haven't even adjusted it one whole notch as of yet.
More like less then a half notch.....
I started out with using Bel-Ray super clean because of all the good reviews.
Not happy at all with the product....
I went back to the old standby i been using for years, and years on my bikes.
Chainsaw Bar n Chain lube....stickyest stuff i can find.
It's messy...yes...
Ok after looking the chain over really good i noticed that a lot of inner rollers
have a fair space between the roller, and the outter plate, but......
The O rings are all in place n look A-Ok.
I used a bright light with a magnifying glass.
Checked the riveted pins to see how they looked....Not good..
I think these stock chain are poor quality....
The riveted ends didn't look the same on each link telling me that was done in poor quality.
Maybe i just got a bad chain?
Best as I could i wiggled links to check for play.
They seem ok for a while longer.....
Wished i would of done this when i was new to be sure.
Looks like a new chain with sprockets will be in the near future....
I didn't bother take pics....
Hands were to oily to bother with using a camera.
I'll keep it lubed well 4 now with the Bar n Chain lube.
Then after it drips off n flings off on a short ride...
I'll hit it with a bit of White lithium grease spray.
I'm quite sure that's all the Bel-Ray expensive stuff is...
Mr Earl, did you start on a 250?

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