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OK, so here we go again. Decided to make a second generation through the frame exhaust. We decided to grind the welds this time & polish it all out. It's made with mandrel bent thin wall stainless, tig welded. It's super light weight. As you may have noticed we used Toomey 2 stroke silencers on this and our old design. We would prefer to make our own design muffler, however the Toomey silencers are Light, easy to use, easy to get, and in my opinion, very nice looking. We haven't given up on developing our own design, but it's going to take some time, and a LOT of money. I hope the links work. I'm including a pic of the first generation. A short clip is on Youtube with some other mods we did. Go to 'fastfreeks'
 

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Looks MUCH better this go round guys!! That makes the crazy price tag you threw on your last pipe a little more reasonable.. But still WAY expensive. :eek:
 

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How much is it?
Their first system they were saying around the 800 mark. I understand it's a full exhaust and not just a slip on, but come on, really? People bought the 250 because it's cheap.. I don't think anyone wants to drop 1/5th of the bikes total cost on an exhaust.
 

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a yoshimura Full exhaust in carbon fiber the MSRP is $719.00 so it is possible that people will like it. People have bought the yoshi exhaust if you like it enough you will pay for it.
 

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We haven't figured a final price for the pipe yet but it will be priced competitively with the higher end systems. The price more than likely will be around $700-$750 keep in mind this is an estimate. We are working on keeping the price as low as possible, that being said the price will be what it is for a reason we're using high grade made in the USA material only, no international outsourcing will be done for any part of the system. The craftsmanship on this pipe or any product and or service we offer will be of the highest quality. In other words "you get what you pay for".

We will get some more info, pics and or video up asap so you can see what it looks like fully dressed and what it sounds like .
 

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I want one!!! Let me know when you get a price put together and I'll take one. Is there anything special needed for install or are you including everything in a nice neat kit? I work or DSM's with my bro so I know how to use a tool but not much experience with bikes. How long should it take and can you email some basic info on what is involved?
 

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09-250 said:
I want one!!! Let me know when you get a price put together and I'll take one. Is there anything special needed for install or are you including everything in a nice neat kit? I work or DSM's with my bro so I know how to use a tool but not much experience with bikes. How long should it take and can you email some basic info on what is involved?
Will do. Yes it will be a complete kit with mounting. It's actually pretty easy to install. It will require cutting off the oem fender, and re-jetting. If you spend Two hours on it you will have taken your time.
 

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The economy has had a definite effect on the ability to produce this system and not work for free. Mandrel bent, thin wall SS tube, plus all of the other materials, cost just at the $300 mark, before we lay a hand on them. 2 guys, in a 1 car garage, with 45K+ $ in tools, collected over a 40 year period. We actually made some of our own tooling for this pipe. We are still debating whether we will make these. It's super light, it works well, has it's own sound, doesn't melt the tail light & IMO the nicest looking exhaust for a 250, on the planet. We tried to have some of the parts pre-fabbed from others in the biz, to cut costs, to no avail. I personally liked both designs. The one not polished, a person could see the beautiful welds & some people like that. To give you an example, Area P has a full on production facility & makes their pipe under several labels. That's how they can do it for cheap. And pipes are not the only thing they fabricate. Can's still on the side, like every one else. If anyone had to make these one at a time, or had any idea what's involved, like we do, then you would know why they cost so much. The one tool we need is $150,000 and it would substantially reduce the mfg cost, but material costs keep rising regardless of the economy.
 

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The economy has had a definite effect on the ability to produce this system and not work for free. Mandrel bent, thin wall SS tube, plus all of the other materials, cost just at the $300 mark, before we lay a hand on them. 2 guys, in a 1 car garage, with 45K+ $ in tools, collected over a 40 year period. We actually made some of our own tooling for this pipe. We are still debating whether we will make these. It's super light, it works well, has it's own sound, doesn't melt the tail light & IMO the nicest looking exhaust for a 250, on the planet. We tried to have some of the parts pre-fabbed from others in the biz, to cut costs, to no avail. I personally liked both designs. The one not polished, a person could see the beautiful welds & some people like that. To give you an example, Area P has a full on production facility & makes their pipe under several labels. That's how they can do it for cheap. And pipes are not the only thing they fabricate. Can's still on the side, like every one else. If anyone had to make these one at a time, or had any idea what's involved, like we do, then you would know why they cost so much. The one tool we need is $150,000 and it would substantially reduce the mfg cost, but material costs keep rising regardless of the economy.
I think it is a substantially awesome looking pipe, definitely agree it is the nicest LOOKING on the planet for a 250r.. with this bad boy I wouldn't bother with my two lower/main fairings. I want to show it off.

Sounds great too, but I am sure the clips do not do it the justice. I would love to keep updated on this project, whether or not you decide to produce, etc. Email me at [email protected] if you want to keep me updated about anything.

Hell, I just landed a job during school that pays me a decent amount so I may just splurge for a full exhaust, I love my HMF slip on but I always wanted a full exhaust. I also love supporting the underdog.

Just keep at it bro, you are making great quality products with great quality materials and a great amount of planning, craftsmanship, and general genuine taste.

Love it.
 
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